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Ima Chameleon's avatar

I cannot pretend to know the answers as to how to stem the rise in the anti-woman rhetoric of the manosphere. It's hate-group stuff. WHY it is a young man finds that rhetoric attractive speaks volumes to economic realities. Whilst being male still gives one an advantage over women in the job market, it has become increasingly more likely that, whether male or female, you WILL end up being grist for a rampant and unregulated capitalism that will seek to exploit you at every turn for the benefit of corporate entities and oligarchs.

A well-accepted fact is that the social order changed with women achieving more equality, but the roles of males also were affected by the changes that were brought about. Traditional roles were forever blurred by two-income families and that's not a bad thing really on a superficial level. However, it is devastating that it's not a choice anymore; two incomes are a necessity for survival of the family. But, if those traditional male roles aren't replaced with something equally as enticing as the old roles, you have the rise of angry young men who feel they have no place in a changing world. It would seem to me that up/down economics pressure young men to work long hours for steadily-decreasing wages, but fail to offer those activities that once gave men a feeling of belonging and satisfaction. The marriage/birthrate is at an all-time low, so there aren't the traditional male roles to inhabit any longer.

The educational system needs to address young men's concerns and show them how to find a fulfilling pathway through life that doesn't involve the subjugation of women. The economic realities of an upside down economic system that benefits only the wealthiest 10% of people is steadily dismantling the notion of equality and freedom. So, young men's current reaction to these changes is not unlike the extreme right's scapegoating of immigrants and people of colour except, due to toxic influencers like Andrew Tate, their wrath has turned against women in general. Women need to refrain from talk of the wrongs of patriarchy (of which there are numerous examples) and start actively engaging with young men in ways that mutually advance both group's understanding of history and what constitutes a "good" society that both want to live in.

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I can totally see everything you say. As a 58 year old feminist, it shits me in many ways, mostly related to “time is precious” so I no longer give as many fucks, but Danny, brilliant mate. Keep saying it, remember we’re all a bit stupid, so you’ll need it a 1000 times more . 👍🏽

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